The new skin is based on Kelsier, a central character of the series. Please help The Coppermind by, Kelsier really wasn't kidding when he said that. Breeze would recruit men for the rebellion, Ham would train them in the Arguois caverns, Dockson would direct the operation's finances, Clubs would hide the group's Allomancy with copperclouds, OreSeur in the role of Lord Renoux would buy the necessary equipment, Marsh would infiltrate the Steel Ministry posing as an obligator, Kelsier would use his Mistborn power to make attacks on the nobility to create tension between the houses, and Vin would gather information in the noble court posing as Renoux's niece Valette. As such, I wont be delving into every plot and character nuanceonly the ones which are likely to be relevant toThe Lost Metal. Kelsier: The Mistborn Survivor of Hathsin who leads the Ghostbloods. We left off in TheBands of Mourning with Steris and Wax eloping. [16][35][37], Seeing his powers, Gemmel wondered what he unleashed upon the world in teaching Kelsier allomancy. Kelsier also convinces Breeze, Ham and Clubs to join the conspiracy by offering a share of the Lord Ruler's stash of valuable atium as loot. Even if he was though, Im kind of confused at why you think Ruin would want TLR to kill Kelsier instead of Ruin trying to have TLR kill himself somehow. He was the leader. Except if you remove the spike, you leave the alteration because the Identity is not matched. , Marsh is Kelsiers older brother. [48] He ultimately only took a glass orb from them after thwarting their plan to take over become the Vessel of Preservation after Leras' death. If anything, I feel like Ruin would have tried to make the Lord Ruler take the bracers off. As the Sovereign, Kelsier ruled the Southern Scadrians for a time and formed another religion that deified Metalborn, and then he left. You just posted an irrelevant comment that was honestly a little hostile. [62] He has also worked together with Khriss. Other 3D models from the same designer Janseloth All The Lord Ruler openly thanked Mare for helping his forces find the thieves, and from this, Kelsier was led to the false conclusion that Mare had purposefully betrayed him. [30] He is quite proficient at pewter dragging and has enough practice to maintain it for hours and still maintain a fair amount of clarity afterwards. He has been described by Brandon Sanderson as a psychopath. The Misborn series comes recommended by Eurogamer friend Johnny Chiodini, who describes Fortnite's latest addition thus: "Kelsier is a thief, but he's also a mistborn - a person who can consume. Though, in my opinion, I dunno if Ruin would try to forcethe Lord Ruler to kill Kelsier. I am not yours. This information has the ability to potentially ruin elements of the plot for the reader. Later on, a group of Southern Scadrians traveled north in search of the Sovereign's Bands of Mourning, but were captured by the Set, who decided to seek the Bands as well. The issue with a spear is if the metal head is all the way out of the body, and only the wooden haft is actually touching. The most notable of these is the rebel group governing Urteau,led by a man known as the Citizen. Worship Trell and wait. After Marsh was seemingly killed by Inquisitors, Kelsier traveled to the Pits of Hathsin, and in his anger, destroyed all the atium-producing crystals there, forever halting the production of atium. Dick was so focused on the rhythm of movement and moving toward the name, he almost missed the quiet sound of a cloak fluttering behind him. He was the one who organized, the one who took all of the wild brainstorming and turned it into a viable operation. Kelsier was then trained by a Mistborn named Gemmel[37] and they traveled to the far north of the Western Dominance to a city called Mantiz where Kelsier fought and killed the Mistborn Antillius Shezler. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the Well allowed him to become a Cognitive Shadow and resist the pull of the Beyond. Kelsier would beat Kaladin in a straight fight as he is prone to using dirty tactics. You cant discuss a theory with only the people who agree with it. Yeah sorry I meant the head of the spear. Marsh resents Kelsier because Kelsier had success with the skaa rebellion soon after Marsh quit being its leader. We dont haveto do this. He is credited as the first to ever escape the death camp, and from henceforth he was titled the Survivor of Hathsin. Kelsier is the leader and presumed founder of the organization, which Mraize calls "the most powerful organization in all the cosmere. Its central tenet is simply to survive, by any means, until you cannot survive any longer. His other role involved using his reputation as the Survivor of Hathsin to inspire the newly-trained skaa soldiers. Kelsier had traveled there several years after the Catacendre, inhabiting a physical body that was spiked in the right eye, and found the Southern Scadrians slowly dying of an unexplained coldness. [68] After Marasi solved the riddle of the Bands and wielded it to escape the Set, she gave it to Wax, who wielded it and became incredibly powerful. [32] He also had Codenames send messages to Steris and the Ghostblood agents in the Elendel Basin, telling them to prepare for an evacuation of Elendel. Except if you remove the spike, you love the alteration because the Identity is not matched. I do think that an interesting (and relevant)question that is brought up by this theory though is whether or not it is possible to spike a person without killing them. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. So we really cant know if he was being feeling the effects of Ruins influence, since we cant even know if he was hemalurgically spiked. Before his death, Kelsier had tried to unlock the potential of the 11th metal, which was rumored to be the Lord Ruler's weakness. Maybe Im just not saying it in a way that can be understood. Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. Even if it weren't a viable metal, as a Mistborn he would have been able to burn it, and he wasn't able to sense it at all. [43], He and Gavilar were working against each other to an unknown extent. He escapes the Well following its destruction and travels west, meeting Khriss, Nazh, and a group of Elantrians along the way. Yes, he's really dead. He overcomes this character flaw eventually (demonstrated by saving the noblemen Elend Venture from certain death) when Vin convinces him that there are good people among the nobility. Their relationship was the sort to where Gavilar was quick to believe that he was the one who ordered his murder. Thus he decides to go along with him out of curiosity. Vin paused at her thoughts. Kelsier's suspicions that Vin was a Mistborn were confirmed when he saw that she was able to burn zinc. Kelsier went on a pewter flare run to save the army, but was too late to stop the battle. He then asked Preservation if they are God, and after being told yes he promptly punched Preservation in the face. While held in an Elendel jail, Suit was visited by a mysterious creature with red eyes. I had a similar reaction to theend of Lev Grossmans The Magicians. [36] There he spent his time believing that his wife Mare had betrayed him to the Lord Ruler until he witnessed his wife being beaten to death by guards after she gifted her Atium bead to him. Our Privacy Notice has been updated to explain how we use cookies, which you accept by continuing to use this website. Kelsier is deified and continues to be venerated more and more by the skaa as the Church of the Survivor gains popularity. He helped the people there survive using his knowledge of the Metallic Arts, showing them how to make metalminds to store attributes like heat in a way that could be shared with anyone. Theres always another secret, but well have answers to some as of November 15th! HE CANT BE HEMALURGICALLY SPIKED IF THE METAL ISNT TOUCHING HIS INSIDES. Despite his suspicion that Mare betrayed him, he decides to fulfill Mare's dream of overthrowing the Final Empire. , Kelsier is terrified by Ati and the power that he holds, seeing and feeling it through the Well of Ascension.[74]. The protagonists find a temple to a man they assume is the Lord Ruler, in which is stored the allomantic and feruchemic Bands. Kelsier is a fully trained Mistborn, despite his half-noble half-skaa ancestry. The roast is strong with this post. Kelsier is known by many titles, the origins of which vary. VenDell: A kandra who often delivers messages on behalf of Harmony. Started by Marasi Colms: An Allomantic Pulser (able to slow down time in a bubble around herself) and a constable in the Elendel constabulary. But strangely, he still loved him. Lyndsey is a renaissance faire performer and magic wand-maker. He is a twinborn, utilizing the Allomantic/Feruchemical skills of Coinshot (pushing metal) and Skimmer (storing his own weight to make himself heavier/lighter). The Final Empire: Mistborn Book 1. It is used to fuel Southern Scadrian Allomantic technology, including their airships, which run via Steelpushing. Marsh/Ironeyes/Death: Kelsier's Inquisitor brother, who possesses Hemalurgic spikes, allowing him to use the abilities of Hemalurgy. His late wife Mare collected pre-Ascension memorabilia, and he keeps one piece, a drawing of a flower,[7] to inspire his crew. A mystery, to be sure. There are hints throughout Era 1 that Kelsier was still around, including Sazed flat out saying that Kelsier requested Spook be made a Mistborn. Now that weve got that basic synopsis out of the way, lets start off with a handy character primer. Vin trains in and works with Kelsier's crew after he prevents Camon from beating her to death, and infiltrates the nobility under the guise of Valette Renoux, eventually helping to save the survivors of the skaa rebellion's army and killing Shan Elariel before fighting the Lord Ruler and killing him. They were extremely successful. This was changed by Vin who fell in love with Elend Venture. [37], Ah, but being an annoyance is something that I am very good at. He has a spike through his eye at the end of BoM. The spear head doesnt have to leave the body. He hid the artifact away somewhere in the north and then disappeared. He hates injustice and takes this hatred to the extreme, which originally resulted in him being unable to see good in any of the nobility. Once their army was trained and the houses grew unstable enough, they would send a part of their army to attack the Pits of Hathsin, forcing the garrison of Luthadel to go and defend the Pits. When he reaches their base, he moved past their guards and passed the wall into their chambers. I was depressed for multiple days. Here they are. All I want is for somebody to clarify what your theory actually is. At the end of the book, Kelsier invites Marasi to join the Ghostbloods after her success in stopping Autonomy's army to which she rejects after much thought. Mistborn was the first Brandon Sanderson book I read, and Kelsier's death shocked me. He is a half-blood skaa with a father from the noble class. When Lord Tresting attempted to rape a skaa girl, Kelsier saved her, killing Tresting and all his servants and soldiers in the process. It is relevant because it has spawned 23 posts and created an interesting discussion. [43], Hoid greatly disapproves of Kelsier's interference with Roshar through the Ghostbloods. It all kind of depends on that. Killing Kelsier in a specific way wouldnt have changed or accomplished anything that he would care about. The Southern Scadrians have also used the metal in primer cubes which can somehow regulate ettmetals effects with the flip of a switch. [46], During his journey to find the Ire, he runs into Ruin and has a discussion about Ruin's intent. In the following months, Kelsier himself took on many roles to further the plan, acting as a beacon to the repressed skaa, assisting in recruitment,[30] attacking many noblemen to increase the tensions between the Great Houses,[16], collecting information by purchasing it from informants, and even posing as an informant in order to provide misinformation to noblemen. Willshaper is high on the list as well. Vin didn't trust him but agreed in order to learn how to use Allomancy. Its relevant to the past in the cosmere. Will Wax and Wayne wield weapons with wild wantonness? If it did, the Koloss who died wouldn't have reverted to Humans when Kelsier saw them die. It depends on whether or not the head of the spear was in him, or poking out the other side without touching him. [20] He is arrogant and very driven which, combined with his power, makes him incredibly dangerous;[21] he is willing to go extremely far to achieve his goalsfor example, he would be willing to use Hemalurgy on a large scale to create powerful Allomancers if ultimately necessary to protect Scadrial from other forces in the cosmerethough is not quite as utilitarian as Taravangian. TLR was being spiked by the rebels and then into Kelsier. Itd be interesting if he actually HAD been spiked by the spears. This was a character that I connected with and he showed true traits of a Robin Hood-hero. The Inquisitor and some soliders followed Camon to find his hideout to wipe out his crew, but Kelsier lured the Inquisitor away by using his own Allomancy while Dockson took out the soldiers. Greetings, Cosmere chickens and Allomancers! From the skaa in Keep Shezler he heard rumors of the Eleventh metal. Personally I don't think that Ruin had left a mark. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. And the whole point of the Cosmere Discussion forumis to discuss irrelevant theories and minutiae about the Cosmere. Once he is freed from the Well along with Ruin, he initially travels around through the Cognitive version of Luthadel, seeking out his friends. [42] For a period, he did not fully respect or believe Leras's divinity, but over time he came to respect him more. He always keeps a smile on his face, because that is the one thing the Lord Ruler can't take from him. Kelsier discovered that Mare had given him her only geode, and was forced to watch Mare being beaten to death by the guards. When Kelsier was in the Cognitive Realm after his release, he often would show up to him in order to mock him and his inability to do anything. MellowKween 21 days ago Hmm well like I said, he's never really gone. Kelsier killed eight Hazekillers, stole a bag of atium, and made sure that it became known that a Mistborn had attacked a Great House, something forbidden by an unspoken agreement between the houses. We want to discuss this theory. Honestly, you should have seen it coming. [66] This book proved vital in solving the case of Bleeder. Marsh, who was also in love with Mare, came to resent Kelsier for winning her love and for constantly outshadowing him with his frivolty. Kelsier's martyrdom and seeming resurrection spawns a new religion, the Church of the Survivor, which venerates Kelsier's teachings. Many years after the Catacendre, the cult which started after Kelsier's deception with OreSeur directly following his death has become a fully-formed religion. And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. Back at the city gates Kelsier introduced Vin to Sazed. He justifies his behavior as faithfulness to the Survivor of Hathsin, since Kelsier himself had been known to express outright hatred for the nobility. Then Yeden would gain control of the city and the crew would receive the Lord Ruler's atium stash as payment. He does this in order to fight the Lord Ruler's oppression of all the skaa, wanting to have one thing which cannot be taken away from him. Hiding you. He accomplished a lot, and died facing down the Lord Ruler himself. Marasi and MeLaan rescue him, and he assists them on their quest to find the Bands of Mourning. One of Kelsier's defining characteristics is his infallible optimism, even in the face of disastrous situations. Kelsier is also highly impulsive, on one occasion attempting to attack an entire army single-handed. HE CANT BE HEMALURGICALLY SPIKED IF THE METAL ISNT TOUCHING HIS INSIDES. Kelsier is a former thief from the capital city of Luthadel. He eventually plays an important role in freeing her from Ruins influence. As long as it provides something to think about and consider, it is worth posting. Batman, the most legendary mistborn himself. Kelsier later gave this drawing to Vin. But were talking about the Lord Ruler, and he was standing up the whole time. During this time, he attempted a second breakin of Kredik Shaw, and was unsuccessful; nearly getting Vin killed in the process. In his interactions with them, he goes by another name you might recognize if youre a Stormlight fan Thaidakar. It is presumed that this is the Sovereign of the Southerners, who saved their people, declared himself ruler, and reorganized the social hierarchy. Despite what he has told the Ghostbloods, Kelsier does not have a real avatar. If he were a Radiant, there are three Orders Kelsier might belong to: Edgedancer, Dustbringer, or Willshaper. In this novella covering the events of the first Mistborn trilogy, Kelsier is trapped in the Well of Ascension following his death. Wax and his friends became embroiled in this incident in opposition to the Set, and Wax was almost killed in an encounter with them. [40] He continued training Vin and was surprised by her quick progress. (Remember how I mentioned all those spoilers? However, this apparition of Kelsier is eventually revealed to be Ruin in disguise. People have theorized similar about Hoid. Mister Suit had been captured and possibly killed, but Lady Sequence (Telsin) had escaped, and there are rumblings of more devious plots afoot something to do with the kandra who are working for the Set, and Trell. He infiltrated the Steel Inquisitors, and is one of the few remaining characters from the original trilogy who is alive. He also appears to be the only remaining Mistborn thanks to Hemalurgy. [6] He is stern and intense, but always smiling; another act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. [57] His bones survived the Ascension of Harmony,[58] and may have helped him regain physical form.[59]. Priests in this religion wear robes with stitching up the arms to emulate Kelsier's scars from the Pits of Hathsin. Breeze, Ham, Clubs, and Clubs' nephew Spook joined his crew. [12] He always smiles and projects an excited and positive attitude, which is particularly unusual in the skaa underground. Wayne is also a twinborn; his skills are Slider (creating speed bubbles) and Bloodmaker (he can store health in his metalminds in order to help facilitate healing). A lawman through and through, Wax is now semi-retired as High Lord of his House. However, he is then confronted by the Lord Ruler himself. OreSeur incites the skaa to rebel, beginning the revolution and the overthrow of the Final Empire. I worried about doing this, actually, since it seemed a little too expected. B. from what I do understand, I don't see why it is relevant, and generally, when something is irrelevant it is wrong simply because it is simply adding more complexity to the books (I think we all know the Cosmere has plenty), and is pointless. As punishment, Kelsier was sent to the the Pits of Hathsin to mine atium for the Lord Ruler. Kelsier has also been keeping himself busy by interfering with Roshar (the world in which The Stormlight Archive is set). Waxillium (Wax) Ladrian(fka Asinthew): One of our two primary characters. TLRwas gonna kill Kelsier anyways. Shes the bastard half-sister of Steris. They have been utilizing Hemalurgy to grant their members Allomantic and Feruchemical powers. Which is kind of how Id always imagined it. Be. Hmmm, he was flat on the ground from the Lord Rulers hit when he was stabbed. What about this mysterious Trell? The spike is not coming with you when your Cognitive separates from the body. 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