Thank you so much for your answer. by Laurie Meadows. As I recall, the Tijuana River valley is where they were first noticed some years back. Persea americana x 'Mexicola Grande'. See if you can find a Reed to try again in September and youll probably get a richer flavor from it. USDA Certified Production Facility: Volume up to 6,000 lbs. Results and timelines of grafted avocados. "Hass avocados are alternate bearing - they will produce a big crop one year, and a small crop the next. Two months ago my Nabal (in SoCal) was also developing a lot of yellow leaves with brown veins, and falling off. The Mexicola and Lamb both look like they might be based on the pictures I have seen. And Gwen was developed just as Hass became king of the world avocado industry and growers and consumers alike began preferring black-skinned avocados. Small fruit will be used for value added product. I hate to hear how many avocado trees havent thrived for you, but its great that you havent given up. Then why isnt Fuerte my top choice? The tree looks healthy and fruitful: auspicious for your plantings. These trees survived the heat wave, they are healthy and beautiful. The fruit has the same thick, pebbly skin as the Hass but has a little rounder shape. Avocado Reed. I know you know the pruning game so Im sure youll have no problem keeping the trees at 12 feet. Zutano, By the way, all of these varieties Reed, Lamb, GEM, Sir Prize taste really good so I wouldnt choose one over the other because of taste. I wanted to plant them next to each other. The Hass is a tough act to follow, but Backyard. The Hass is a medium spreading tree, whereas the Reed is more upright in stature. Thanks for the feedback on Holiday. Thin skin but good flavor. Great article Greg! Thank you, Elizabeth. Wonder what that was all about. A whole avocado contains around 11.8 grams of carbs ( 1 ). I would think that arctic blasts during winter will be your main limiting factor. Edranol, Ettinger, Hass, Sharwil and Zutano were mid-season flowerers. If ever back this way soon would compensate you gladly to do a quick evaluation of right and wrong approach here. I completely understand and I agree. For example, they had Hass planted at 10 feet by 10 feet in 2004, but just topworked that block this spring, 15 years later, because it had become too costly to manage. Asking them to prune 3X a year I think is questionable. It is only slightly pebbled with yellowish bumps, much smaller than the ones found on a Hass. So sorry to have somehow missed your earlier comment. I have a friend who lives in your area: nice place to grow avocados. Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. So if possible, I would also add a third tree of a B-type flower and keep it small and use it just for the flowers (strip all or most of its fruit each year). A good companion for GEM in your allotted space of 12 by 12 might be Pinkerton or Sir-Prize to get fruit in winter before GEM is ready to pick in spring; or Reed or Lamb to get fruit in summer into fall after the GEM harvest is done. And if I couldnt find a Fuerte, Id substitute a Pinkerton. It could be something I acquired from eating Fuertes as a kid, I dont know. One thing I didnt consider was the price of avocados during the months where I would likely have to buy. We have tried to plant Hass avocados about four times and despite every best effort with location change in the yard and switching up irrigation they all eventually turned black on the trunk, browned leaf tips, and given up, to our dismay. In 1992, the USDA banned shipment of the Sharwil avocados after an oriental fruit fly larva was found in a Hawaiian packinghouse that processed Sharwil avocados and other local produce. All I can say is wow! Yes, you can definitely graft several varieties onto one tree. Your area is definitely on the cool side, but actually not too much cooler than ideal for avocados in terms of high temperatures. On the other hand, if a tree doesnt have a heavy set and you want to try to prevent the few fruitlets that it has set from dropping, the best thing you can do is make sure it doesnt become stressed from heat or thirst. FRUITING VARIETY Hass Carmen Hass - subject to $5.18 + GST per tree royalty payment Maluma Hass - subject to $5.00 + GST per tree royalty payment Reed Sharwil It makes me more confident that I can keep an avocado alive and healthy enough to bear fruit someday. A couple of practices to consider from the UC IPM page: Excess fertilization, especially with quick-release formulations, may increase persea mite numbers and damage during late spring and summer due to increased foliar nitrogen. It is an effective way to manage closely planted trees. Ill be visiting a mature high-density planting in a couple weeks and Ill pass along anything new that I observe, but the main long-term challenge for most growers with this style is keeping on top of the pruning. I have two Hass and a sir prize, and my next door neighbor has a Big Florida type avocado and a friend down the street has a seed grown reed type with round fruit. They grow great but just dont produce as much fruit. Where do you guys find Reeds in San Diego? It sounds like an ideal type B. 1) be reliable cropper, a variety that gives high yields, even as a solo-tree (we dont have other avocados in our neighourhood, and my two trees, not flowering at the same time, would be considered as solo-trees) Congratulations on your house in Covina. Is there something I can do to prevent the drop, or is it just survival of the fittest? Flowering and pollination. Anyway, Id focus on A types, and with the 14-foot ceiling you could prune any variety to keep its size in check or go with a naturally smaller variety such as Gwen, GEM, Pinkerton, Lamb, or even Reed (these will all ultimately get taller than 14 feet, but not as soon). Elevated a 12 foot circle 8 inches with landscape stones and filled with wood chips. Also my grandfather said growing up in Los Angeles they had Mcarthur avocados, Have you ever heard of them? Hi David, Your input and knowledge definitely helps. (Both Reed and Hass produce more than Fuerte in my yard.) Thanks for the info. each month Should you buy a big or small avocado tree? What would you recommend? Even when it was 118 back in July 2018 I lost no Pinkerton fruit, and Ive seen a Pinkerton tree in Redlands that carried a massive crop through that same heat wave. Finally, Ill say that if I had to have two avocado trees of any one variety, it would definitely be Hass. It is so hard to know when a variety will taste good coming from a tree in your yard based on the information of others, I totally agree. A single fruit can weigh over a pound and the tree grows to reach just 8 feet indoors, or 15 to 20 feet when planted outside. USDA zones are not very useful for deciding these things, unfortunately. Thanks Greg! Two, get a combination of hardier varieties and others like Hass, Reed, GEM, etc. I would still choose Hass as my single tree in Van Nuys, and Reed should do well there too. (Note: I took this photo in June, at the tail end of the Fuerte season, at the height of the Hass season, and at the very beginning of the Reed season.). But yes, Lamb, Reed, and Fuerte all have higher salt tolerance than Hass. Hass is the most widely planted variety in the world for good reason. Im leaning towards Bacon and Lamb Hass. Whats your take on planting it as the only Avocado tree in my yard? You might be able to find a Gwen to taste at a farmers market somewhere nearby around now and through summer. Pollinators for the Avocado - Sharwill (B) Cross pollinate with one of these varieties for fruit set Avocado - Hass (A) $ 54.00 ($54.00-$79.00 choose a size) Most popular variety due to both its superior taste and excellent keeping qualities. I havent seen you comment on Sirprize. I pre-irrigated and sprayed down the trees during the heat and prevented fruitlet drop too well. Sharwil is not as 'nutty' as Hass, but has a mild but rich fullness of flavor and lingering creamy after-taste that transcends Hass. They have been so helpful for me starting my garden. years, 7 now. Where I am now (Ramona) gets a little chillier even than there but Lamb does fine in my yard. reading on other forums, ive seen comments that its better in the long run to plant a smaller size tree (3 gallon +) compared to a larger 15+ gallon size tree.that the smaller size tree will out perform and out grow the larger gallon size in the future. The tree is vigorous and upright, but apparently can be keep to about 2.5 metres in height by intensive pruning. H.B. Thanks Greg, I can go into the reasons for this if youre interested. First propagated in 1911 in a California nursery, it got its name - Spanish for "strong" - after a particularly hard frost hit the area in 1913. However, the main challenge is that different varieties grow at different rates so you have to prune in order to make sure that one (or more) dont take over and shade out the other(s). Hi Greg, I saw a fruiting avocado tree for the first time in my life. Thanks. That tree eventually did die. While Dusa is the global standard today, it does not perform best in all conditions with all scion varieties. http://www.avocadosource.com/Journals/2_Seminario/2_Seminario_Talks_Kohne_Rootstocks.pdf, This is when I realised the tremendous importance of the rootstock (some rootstocks have three times bigger yields than the others!). Some of them are relegated to a lower tier because of flavor (Zutano); some arent productive enough (Holiday). If I was going to do it again here in the Southern Vic, I'd just go for Hass and Reeds mostly with maybe three Bacons and an Ettinger for a pollinator. Now I am wondering if I will regret having a Bacon paired with my Hass instead of getting a Fuerte. Yet Pinkerton, Mexicola, Bacon, Jim Lamb, Wurtz and Reed do well here. Hass grow and produce great in other cool summer climates farther south, such as near Morro Bay. Thanks. Robert. Sharwil avocados from . Hi, i was gifted a Nabal Avocado tree for xmas and before i plant it in the ground, i was wondering what its growing habits are? Lots of dieback when it reached 117F for 3 days. So with just these two trees, Id have the highest quality avocados in the world for most months of the year. But unfortunately, there was a huge heat wave in July-August 2022, and the young Hass died of sunburn. Great for guacamole, or just eating out of hand with a dash of salt. I named the tree Lamorinda after the area it is grown which is name referring to the 3 cities of Lafayette, Moraga and Orinda. When I looked up the harvest time, it looks similar to a Reed. Multi-grafted avocado trees can work. Will the new leaves burn? Hass, Hass has the wonderful ability to mature its fruit and then hold them on the tree for many months, waiting for you to pick them. Hass avocado is perhaps one of the most famous avocado types and considered by many to be the best.The flavour is quite intense and the flesh is very creamy, perfect for guacamole.. Until the 1930s, Fuerte was the best-known variety in the USA, until Rudolf Hass, a green fingered postman, planted some avocado seeds for a small plantation.Hass then patented the tree he chose and it was later . The global Hass Avocado market is projected to reach USD million by 2028 from an estimated USD million in 2022, at a CAGR of Percent during 2023 and 2028. After watching your wonderful Fuerte tree video I was inspired and replaced my young Ettinger for the real thing besides Fuerte might be my personal favorite flavor probably because I remember the taste of Fuerte guacamole as a kid. Tamp the soil down around the tree's . If the tree turns out to be a winner in your yard too, then eventually we can all benefit from the discovery. There are likewise some very old Puebla-type trees where I grew up that I always drive by to check on when Im in the neighborhood. So, I found an avocado variety calendar, on gregalder.com, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_20170831_071354-1-e1504273347755.jpg, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/WP_20160104_09_07_06_Pro.jpg, but I am still struggling and have no idea what second variety would be the best choice. Ive got a Fuerte tree that Ive grafted a couple Pinkerton and Lamb branches into, but this situation is easier because I want those Pinkerton and Lamb branches to stay small and just provide pollen for the Fuerte; Im not trying to have each variety take up about a third of the canopy area. We also have a Cate Macadamia tree in the backyard which is doing excellent. A single, 25-foot Hass tree will give you a few hundred avocados in a good year, but a tree kept pruned to 10 or 15 feet would give you fewer. Let me know how the grafting and new trees go, and share photos of the cut fruit if you get a chance. http://www.riversun.co.nz/assets/Uploads/Avocado-Rootstock-Characteristics.pdf When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? Oh yes, I found an avocado tree in Nice!!!!!!!!!!! Ive watched some young trees in your area get zapped by cold every couple years recently. The Mexicola Grande avocado is the most frost-resistant of all avocado varieties. Our hydrangeas have always been pink, not a hint of blue, no matter the quantity of theSoil Acidifiermy mother added.I think our PH is around 7, not less. At the same time I have not been able to taste one and am surprised at how difficult it has been to find, so I wonder how accurate those old articles are, what downsides it might have that have made it less popular over time. Thanks for the response. Even in warm-winter locations it doesnt always bear as well as some A types. I could swear that I read somewhere that Reed trees will get very tall if left unpruned. They had to prune three times per year, and still the production had declined since year nine. Still, what most people prefer to do is plant multiple trees close together, even in one hole. Ive never bought from Clausen but have heard good results from a friend who has bought avocado trees there. I picked up the last Reed from Walter Andersens last week and a little Fuerte. The trees are doing spectacularly, especially the Nabal with 18 almost baseball size avocados on it. But I have seen Holiday and Pinkerton. I havent seen any other Gwens growing in exactly those conditions. impossible (or almost impossible) to ship American varieties from the US to Europe. By the way, I have a few other Hawaiian varieties growing that Ive never tasted and am wondering if youd recommend giving any of them more or less attention and space: Murashige, Malama, Nishikawa, Kahaluu? Truth is, youll probably be happy with either a Reed or a Sharwil in every way. It will be a few years before I can say much about most of the Hawaiian varieties I am growing. If you can send me another email address then please do. https://gregalder.com/yardposts/protecting-avocado-trees-from-heat/. Would you say these are still your top 3? When they set a lot like your trees have, they must shed some or else branches will break, get sunburned, even die back from the stress of growing too much fruit. You could try a different variety, but I doubt that would significantly change your results. Oops! 3 Advertisements West Indian (Persea americana Mill. I would stick to A types though. But just a few years later, in 1992, fruit flies ruined everything. But at least it was grown in Southern California. A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. The tree eventually began to die, when I cut it down the center of the large branches were black. Plant a couple little vegetables in the spot to see how they do before planting new avocado trees. I have never tasted anything but supermarket Hass from distant lands so all I can do is read or watch videos of people describing how each variety tastes like. ), (See more about Fuerte in my post, The Fuerte avocado tree: a profile.). Looks like my own graft will take. Your help would be most welcome, The only varieties that I would avoid for the use of shade are Holiday, Wertz, Stewart, Gwen, and Lamb. Averages are higher in the winter, when I would be at a shortage if I were to get a Reed. Should I go which two Dusas (Hass+Dusa, Reed+Dusa)? Type B is a plus, but also read that it is not as great of a producer. A homegrown Hass, picked at prime time around May or June in, Whats Reed like? Good questions, all. The skin also gets some brown russetting. Who knows? The variety was developed in Australia during the mid-1950s and it became the main commercial avocado grown in . Great to hear! In fact, Hass also produces more reliably than Fuerte in most places. Do you have any neighbors with avocado trees in their yard? The flesh itself has a mild taste and is quite watery. Might turn out to be yours though! I also have a Bacon way in the back yard mostly for pollinating. If you want it to spread very horizontally, Id plant a Fuerte. I have a space there where its convenient for them to dump. Im from Southern Portugal and had also trouble to find reliable sources for avo trees. I tried it 2 days in row. I am curious to see if it will fruit consistently. I will be planting your suggested trio this spring. Production is too low in California. Fruit Weight: 7-14 oz. Have you received your trees? It is medium in size with rough green skin and yellowish-green flesh. (See page 28 in Gary Benders book, Avocado Production in California. We have a large greenhouse and I was hoping you could suggest some avocados that might be easier to grow and fruit here? I think they do not sell avocado trees on Dusa in nurseries, because it is still under licence (I had to pay a bit more for the patent and had to communicate to Brokaw the addresses of the orchards). About the leaves, I think most people just think it looks messy. Nevertheless, a friend of mine has got a very young avocado tree in her garden (grown from a seed, probably a Hass seed), which gave it first fruits this summer. If I had the space for two avocado trees, I would plant a Hass and a Reed. Thats a cool question. Thanks for these comments. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. But the important thing is that Reeds taste great a couple months after Hass are at their best. Good problems. Besides it being a source of great tasting fruit id like it to be a nice (picturesque) shade tree. I wrote this post with someone just like you in mind. Reed, I have been trying to research this for a while now trying to figure out the best combination for me. So, right now I still want to plant two avocado trees))))) I still want to plant a Hass, but I havent decided on the second variety. But first let me say thank you. 1 year old Pinkerton on unknown seedling If you ever go wine tasting up here, the huge Puebla and another large tree which sounded like a Zutano but it could be some other old variety they are at Farella Vineyard in Napa. Im very close to cutting mine down. Do you agree that GEM would be a good choice? Really, grafted avocado trees can kill themselves by fruiting too much too soon. Usually the soil we get up here for avocados is more suited for stone fruit. These are the first trees I have had success with and just dont want to mess things up. One concern I have about fresh trimmings is the build up of spores and what not from it just being piled up (6 inches or so thick). What do you think? Should be interesting to see how it works out. Big and green are the two fatal qualities that prevent Reeds acceptance as a commercial variety in todays small and black Hass world. Other A-type avocados that are naturally on the relatively small side and produce well and are good eating include: Pinkerton, Lamb, Reed, and Gwen. Horizontally? 100% Hawaiian Sharwil Avocados. One thought would be to graft an A and a B to the same tree with similar seasons for cross pollination. This makes me very happy? The Gem is covered with avos, the other two have about 5 or six each. Thats nearly year-round, top-notch avocados from three trees. There are so many in the Santa Barbara area. Once you have tried a GreyStar avocado, you will quickly conclude that GreyStar is several rungs up the ladder from Hass in flavour, quality and value. If I had the space for only one avocado tree, I would plant a Hass. Fruit may have a larger seed when grown in rainy areas. Thank you for your great thoughts on Avos! I have a place near my citrus trees. A homegrown Hass, picked at prime time around May or June in southern Southern California, but some months later up near Point Conception and ripened at room temperature on a kitchen counter (not refrigerated and gassed with ethylene during its mishandling on the way to a retail outlet) is a knockout. The challenge is that many of them have similar harvest seasons, which are spring into summer: Hass, Sharwil, GEM, Gwen. This time around I have white washed all my young trees and have placed a shade cover around my Fuerte, which apparently doesnt do well Im the heat. The answer depends on a few things. Taste Ive read is great. It means a lot to me! We do not have a lot of wind problems where we are located, either. 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