50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60*, Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck But there is a lot more to it than that. Ping G425 Max 10.5 - Ventus Black 6X or G425 LST Ventus - Black 7X, Ping G425 Max 14.5 - Ventus Blue 7X I showed him all the stats on the monitor and he was in agreement but when it came to buying the actual driver he insisted on buying the 9.5 head with the TP after all the work on the launch monitor. Started Thursday at 03:24 PM. You must log in or register to reply here. This will give you a low-to-mid-range straight shot. Sounds like it's a long iron. Fitters have to find some way to raise their ball flight, because those golfers lack the speed necessary to get the best results from many modern iron heads. I highly recommend that golfers get fitted before making a large purchase on golf clubs. 2 degrees upright, what does this say about my swing etc Getting your first putt inside three feet will greatly improve your score. I am now thinking I am just going to bend my 712 Ap2 irons to the 714 AP2 specs so my gaps will match up better with my wedges. It, In any case one can't really compare clubs anymore with respect to asking what someone hit. This will change the trajectory of the ball, and can potentially cause misdirected shots. Thanks for your advice, its been helpful. So you bend them 1 degree strong, bounce follows it by a degree. 00bolt, September 12, 2016 in WRX Club Techs. Thats why I custom order iron sets with lofts that are 1-to-2 degrees weaker than standard about 40 percent of the time. You can also bend the angles to a consistent specification precisely fit for any golfer. Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X", Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions), Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Pasted as rich text. May 23, 2016 at 04:54 PM. ** Due to coronavirus and the work restrictions in place here in Michigan, for international orders, please email info@mitchellgolf.com for a complete quote. 4-AW with juiced lofts is the same set as an old 3-PW that would probably be 22*-48*. Strengthening the loft should decrease the effective offset shouldn't it? (I ran into this today.) You might as well get a distance gap before bending. How will that affect it though? And its one of only two elements of the golf swing that require absolutely no physical skills. He is also 1 of 33 TrackMan Masters in the world, and has completed thousands of successful fittings using TrackMan. I dont want the extra length added to the shaft plus the x7 2i shaft I have for it is the last x7 shaft i have. TM M2 8.5* Graphite Design Tour AD GP 6X+ I was wondering if bending my irons 1 to 2 degrees strong at a golf shop will change the playability of the 712 AP2s. What still kills me are the guys coming in and demanding a lower lofted driver thinking it will give them more distance. Remember, the set is not necessarily progressively consistent from one club to another, and therefore each club should be checked. Bomb and gouge. 4-6 more yards (depending on club and swing speed) and lower launch with less bounce. But if a high spin player gets a 15 launch and 6000 RPM with a 115 MPH ball speed with a 5-iron, then whats wrong with that? Titleist Response to USGA / R&A Distance Insights. I just switched from Wilson Ci9 to Taylormade TP MC, and Ive gained almost 15 yards despite the lofts being higher. Thats basically what companies are doing anyway. Low bounce irons can become more digging prone from this change. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, By He hasnt let that chance go, and while the opening nine events certainly havent been stunning seven missed cuts he showed up at Bermuda, finishing 35th after entering Sunday inside the top-15. Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34" -or- Cleveland Huntington Beach #1, 34.5" -or- Golden Ram TW Custom, 34" -or- Rife Bimini, 34" Taylor Made tour issue M2 T3 Ozik Matrix 8M3 X Hi everyone, sorry for the slow reply! Bending irons 2 degrees stronger | Golf Monthly DO NOT SEND PMs WITH CLUB TECH QUESTIONS - USE THE PUBLIC FORUM. examples, keep you head down, hit down on the ball, you gotta swing inside out. Offset degrees especially with a long iron can be a factor along with sole design. Can I bend my irons strong? - Golf Clubs - Team Titleist On the opposite and gapping from AW to 9i is very wide about 16 yards about between clubs. Well this article outlines a variety of statistics which will help you pinpoint which areas of the game you are above or below average. Another point regarding GI/SGI clubs that I would love to see a fitter touch on is shaft length. Machines that adjust for all hosel positions, such asMitchell Angle Machinesare accurate regardless of the offset or hosel design of the golf club. We dive into a subject we get A LOT of questions about, bending your clubs properly. Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" It would decrease the bounce on each club, not a good idea, as well as it would cause the ball to go farther. Clamp the piece in so only a 1/2 inch below where you want the bend in the angle iron is flush with the top of the vise. You may have heard golfers talk about how they need to use a flatter club or that they need to change their lie angle. Best of luck.Chuck. Free shipping for many products! Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X, In the grand scheme of things, I would say zero effect. Even the most skilled repair professionals can occasionally break a club. . ***GIVEAWAY*** Cleveland CBX ZipCore Wedge! Its ball speed not loft that is increasing distance. OK, quick question. 5 Testers Needed! Well-regarded at home, he mixed his time in junior golf with the likes of Min Woo Lee and Curtis Luck, during which he finishedrunner-up at The Players Amateur before winning the elite Porter Cup and being part of the victorious three-man Australian team at the Eisenhower Trophy, played partly at El Chamaleon, scene of the Mayokaba events on the PGA Tour. By Ultimately, your answer is yes, you can do this. Hope this Helps! But Im not sure whats being accomplished with weakening irons. And here is why. Pasted as rich text. Definitely worth getting L/L check done and adjusted where necessary. That is why getting the numbers is so important. Ping G410 LST 3 Wood Oban Tour Prototype V430 weight removed), Ball:1. I can't say that they have kicked my 716 ap2 out for good, but for now the 716 cb are staying in the bag! All rights reserved. Your golf ball starts off towards the left of your target (right for lefties). Odyssey Pro #1 black Your previous content has been restored. Machines with fixed measuring gauges will not be accurate when measuring clubs with offset, progressive offset, or face progression hosel positions. I created this website after hearing the same questions from my students over and over as a place where new golfers can come to learn and improve their golf game. If jacking with strong lofting one you need to have a good fitter/ instructor work with you on your model suggestion and what will fit your swing. Then if your wedge gaps are off you might tweak them a degree. The ball came out much higher and shorter, just like you would expect from a 63*. What are you trying to achieve? An Aussie with a residence in Scottsdale, playing on a windy coastal track this is a great chance. Ping Glide wedges w/Recoil 110 However, in reality it was now a 63* wedge so what happened. If you have any doubt about the hand position, think of this scenario. Titleist does recommend no more than +/- 2 degrees from factory and you should be ok. Any more and there is a risk of the stress cracks in the hosel area (primarily cosmetic). The 4 iron will have a negative bounce if you bend them 2 degrees. A long iron doesn't have much bounce anyway since it was made to not take a big divot. Im 62 and most GI clubs are too long even for me in their stock iteration with this progressive shaft lengths concept. And the opposite is true as the speed drops. The bend overlap in angle iron will be bigger so you need to allow for a 1/2 inch. And here is why. Bending irons 2 degrees stronger gopher99 May 9, 2021 May 9, 2021 Thread starter #1 G gopher99 Active member Joined Mar 15, 2019 Messages 233 Hi, i need some info from the more knowledgeable people on here than myself, I would like to bend my mizuno 921 forged irons 2 degrees stronger to fit in with the gapping on my wedges. The Wedge Guy: What really makes a wedge work. Study those players and mimic their set-up and you will take another giant step toward playing better golf. 2023 Acushnet Company. Oh, and Jason Day is reputed to have bent some of his irons strong and I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with ego. March 27, 2015 at 11:41 AM But if it'll mess up the performance or whatnot, I'm not messing with it. But bending an iron weak is not as well understood by many golfers, so they are more hesitant. How Much Does 1 Degree of Loft Affect Distance? Iwas wondering if I could bend my 712 AP2 irons strong and not see any changes in the irons. Bending the loft is another story. Contact Us Now as lower handicappers, we will probably not have our hands at impact fluctuating 3, 4 or 6 inches, but I would not say mine are within an inch of exactly the same place every time. TM TP UDi #1 w/ Diamana The speed of putts is crucial. This will reduce any penalty shots and subsequently the number of doubles-or-worse in your round. Due to how DeChambeau delivers the club, his 4-iron has a stated loft of 16 degrees; the stock Ping i230 comes in at 22.5 degrees. Vokey 54.10, 2009 58.12 M, Testing TM MG2 60* TW grind and MG356* TW grind. Titleist 818 H1 19 HybridMiura CB-57 4-PW And yes it is common to not have an iron longer than 6 or 5 for some of these guys because they carry them all the same distance, and then hybrids come into play. Routinely, I notice longer than standard 85g shafts with these sets. You might find that you ask yourself if you are better or worse than the average golfer? I suspect Ill be waiting a very long time, Amen, finally some one with great insight.