Shes fantastic and looks fantastic doing it! Can Picard go round the sun once more and rescue Saru from Discovery? I originally was skeptical but then I turned around in season 1 and really started enjoying it. Mention one thing or person loved by EVERYBODY. Maybe sociological issues? And no one in their right mind would play poker with her. Remember , they had steroids and thyroid problems in the 80's, but the majority of people were off normal weight, which today would be called skinny. Everybody loves ., meant literally, is never true. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. each series has traditionally had someone that acts as a way to explore the inner humanityie spock, data, odo, doc/seven. This post (handouts bad habits yada yada yada) is your latest misogny, homophobia and white supremacy , and I am sick and tired of it. Take me to the stars and tell me a story. Speaking to Glamour UK, Sonequa Martin-Green revealed that she has dealt with body image issues too: Back in the mid-to-late eighties, early nineties, everything I saw, with hip hop, was all curvy, curvy, big butt, she recalls. Everyone has their gifts. Im proud to see that shes proud of herself. Have to disagree. Trolls that bodyshame others are a lower life form. I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. Tilly is not a perfect officer. Cant believe people are so rude as to insult anyone because they dont look the way they expect. And another way to look at it: at least its not another hour of tv taken by a reality show, right? She is best known for starring as Sylvia Tilly in the Paramount+ science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery (2017-present). Mary Wiseman: I wish there maybe in the future theres room for some protective best friend/boyfriend energy. Overweight is a risk of becoming obese. There have been moments where they tried to do that, but like everything else on Discovery where self-doubt and emotional scenes of worry in darkly-lit rooms need to be front and center, they always seemed to bring Tilly back to spazzing out because she was nervous about whether she can do it before being put on a mission. The last novel just came out last year (where does she find the time lol). Be sure to watch Mary Wiseman "Killying it" as Ensign Sylvia Tilly on Star Trek: Discovery. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. :). . This was to reveal the true intents and emotions of the players in each plot, which highlights the role they play in momentous choices in high-stake situations. I dont see a repeated notion that DISCO saved Trek by heavily incorporating emotion into their characters. I like me. Theyve written Tilly as just the straight oh theres Tilly for the jokes. Anyway it was just a thought. Sick and tired of T and A being the main focus. Personally I dont find that inspiring in any way whatsoever. And Id add she has a hero complex too always wants to save the day/galaxy/whathaveyou. Why wouldnt someone want to be more like that? With Discovery now firmly planted in the distant future, Paradise notes the importance of ensuring that that show remains connected to the larger Star Trek universe through well-placed references . Release date: Star Trek Discovery season 4 will release on November 18 in the US. 71 comments so far. You misunderstood. Shes supposed to set the example. Shes loved. She is most recognized for her roles in the science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery on Paramount+, where she first played Cadet, then Ensign, and finally . Biography Between Marys comments about how Tilly internalizes her experiences as acting First Officer and Captain and the fact that we see Gen Rhys in the big chair in one of the early production stills, does anyone think that Discovery might get Treks first regular series Asian First Officer? I read somewhere that Gates McFadden and Marina Sirtis had somewhere in their contract a stipulation that they had to fit into their costumes. I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. I do find their quirks annoying at times, but the most important reason I like them is because theyre honest, kind people with a good heart. What is wrong, pretty bad to read, is fans mocking the actors, it is actually very sexist, not cool. Its really just certain comments sections and Facebook garbage holes. I guess some people would rather the perfect people of TNG than anyone that mirrors back anything they dont want to see in themselves. If you read what Mary and Sonequa are saying, they arent promoting any particular body style or fitness choice, just that they are as they are and only they have the right to choose how that should be. Hopefully next season they will be given more development. This is not a good show and not a good Star Trek Show too. It just really doesnt fit in this show however. Since season one, Tilly (Mary Wiseman). I mean, it was just so fun! And for your own gain, right? I think you are talking jibberish. Do you see that tension? But dont those characteristics fit better on a younger character, while the older one grows up and changes? Lwaxana sometimes I dont mind her simply because she puts Picard and Odo on their back feet, but she was very OTT on shows that didnt really have a lot of OTT characters, and there was little reason for her to keep appearing on DS9 beyond reverence towards Majel Barrett. Ive learned a lot of bad spelling comes from dictating into your smartphone. Too nervous and anxious. That was always the theory I had for Barclay. It is not others right to tell someone how their body should be that sort of thing was done with slaves. Theres even a scene where she pretty much turns to the camera and says that shell stay till the very end. Im glad we are finally seeing it. But the nu left that this show panders to cant accept any opinion that isnt in agreement with it so they try to immediately invalidate it. And to be honest, she never really helped him out all that much. There are characters you really cherish and others that are fun but ultimately nothing special. Hopefully its . Weve seen a lot of big men in Star Trek but no big girls. And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, From future Starfleets POV, thats 900 years! After the first two seasons of high pressure I thought I would have seen more growth. And a. Lwaxana Troi, Tilly is frankly nowhere near as annoying as those other characters. Other ships having counselors in the TNG era was mentioned. The frequency and level of mockery and hate, very often is targeted to the female actors, for them to behave like women, to behave as woman leaders. Some of us dont grasp the very basic foundation of what Star Trek is all about!? Anyway, another Discovery-ism, amongst the many other weird decisions on this show. Tilly appears twice in the Star Trek: Discovery season 5 trailer. I hope were able to explore it because theres potential for great levity, but then also really important conversations to be had because when you care about someone you dont want to see them go through pain, and I can see completely how Tilly will be very protective of Michael Burnham. 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New episodes of Star Trek: Discovery premiere on Thursdays on CBS All Access in the U.S. and on CTV Sci-Fi Channel in Canada, where it's also available to stream on Crave. David, Can we expect any surprising uses of the special things that Book can do in season four, now that he can control the spore drive? David, has Michael becoming captain changed Books relationship with her? I would imagine those who liked Barclay probably include a large portion of those who like Tilly. You know, like a psychotic murderer? That sucks, but that is just the way it goes. The only writers they need are people who can polish it up enough so that you cant tell its machine-written. As I said Tilly has the same issues. Bad, character pandering types of writing, with over-emotional children in the roles of astronaut-scientist-soldiers. Took time to reset the franchise. No one of my Trekkie friends, growing up with TNG watch this anymore. In general, the Litverse kicks off with the TNG A Time to series that fills in events between the movies Insurrection and Nemesis. Some folks here like this nu trek because it lowered standards to make them feel better about themselves. I can see myself having a few bottles of synthehol with him. With his skill and abilities, we will see how he may use them in a way that may affect his relationship with Michael Burnham. As an officer shes supposed to be leader. Jack perhaps you were at the Dave Chappelle protest screaming Judas, you are starting to sound like the type who gets sensitive over everything. Everybody loves Tilly. Except the writers of course. actor requirements for shows/movies ridiculous? - Page 2 Sad but true, yet we always opt to genuflect in the direction of the elephant. The doctor was usually the therapist. "Hope springs eternal" was the central thesis for Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale . My condolences to you, for your mum. It explains why each scene is half-redundant and half-contradictory with the others within the same episode. Just IMHO, because to each his (or her, or their) own! The 60s/70s are gone. But it looks like TG47 answered your question! Conversational, easy to listen to and understand every point. It is their choice to be as they choose to be, and their responsibility to deal with the pros and cons of whatever fitness choices they choose. She seems to be a lovely human being and all that in real life but her acting is not the best. Editor's note, 23 Dec 2020: If you like Wiseman's interview here, then you should also check out interviewer Dawn Ennis's other work. I truly do love this show, but Burnham and Tilly are so damn annoying. She is super meta. Im glad you figured out what works for you, but Im not cool with a Star Trek board in 2021 focusing on an actors weight or appearance, especially when its a man commenting on a womans weight. There is a wealth of other outlets for health and fitness information, that frankly are more dispassionate and factual than getting health and fitness info from celebrities. I am a therapist in real life, and even *I* think it was crazy that they had a therapist on the bridge. I think theres room for it. Tilly (Mary Wiseman) leads the stranded Starfleet cadets to safety. He was competing in show jumping events with his horses until at least his 70s. Shes magnetic. Im sorry if the idea of someone not like Discovery upsets you, but its unreasonable to expect people to change their minds for that reason. | December 23, 2020 | Whereas Tilly is an oh shes just like me and validates all my insecurities so its ok to be as I am. Yes I forgot David Mack is a consultant on this show too and is well aware of all the post-Nemesis stories in the novels. The audience is growing due to our amazing loyalty, but I give them credit toobecause Discovery, we have all these new shows. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. She hasnt mentored anyone except in one episode. Sort of the same way Spock stayed first officer in the movies to Kirk although he was a captain for five of those films. Sorry TM, its MY fault! Being encouraged to eat only what ones body needs is another thing entirely. Sisko on the other hand. Every character aboard that ship represents a minority. The Terra Firma arc introduced the real Mirror Universe version of Tilly (aka Captain Killy). Is her awkwardness all that different from Ezri on DS9? Let's get into the details of the actress's weight gain, which has also been linked to her pregnancy. I LOVE the future! His Voyager appearances were also horrid. Like her prime universe counterpart, Tilly was portrayed by Mary Wiseman.. Tilly was presumably killed when the Discovery was destroyed in the prime universe.. Apocrypha. We want people to get their facts from reliable health sources, not celebrities, so saying actors should be sending some sort of fitness message is just backwards. She's interviewed several Star Trek . Not liking a character doesnt make a person a troll, so Im not even sure what that nonsensical comment was supposed to mean. Jealous and insecure,they can only feel better by putting others down. Theres a little Harley Quinn. Janeway is bridge crew, of course she was coming back! Stupid decision to bring her back. Perhaps season four will address Burnham and Tillys unreadiness on more than an emotional level. Im not counting on it. I found him quite annoying, myself. Thats the thought I had last season, when they had the perfect chance to wirte out Burnam (I believe it was Reunification III or the one after that) and they just didnt follow through at the end. Mary Wiseman Talks Tilly's Future On 'Star Trek: Discovery' These are not well-written or well-acted characters, and they weaken the series every time they show up. So many characters, and all were very well developed with interesting stories. So I was also just very excited for the fans. Like maybe he would be way too codependent or something? Lets stick with the science and not target individuals. American actress Mary Wiseman was born on July 30, 1985. Then there are many women like Sonequa, who feel theyre too skinny. Its just lazy writing. Body shaming is just another category of bullying, with the same general goal of the shamer making him/herself feel superior by putting down others around them, rather than elevate him/herself with goodwill and compassion. Wasnt it Saru who made Tilly the First Officer? He was in the Travis Mayweather category. Hes been very creative in using callbacks and interweaving eras in his own work. There really are some of the DS9 authors that are stronger and some that tend to tell too much and show to little in their writing in my view. Control over ones own body is the most basic freedom we should have. So when very capable people feel un-capable, crazy things happen. I see other people mentioning the books on Reddit and Youtube because of the new show obviously. Star Trek: Discovery | Tilly Chooses To Live | Paramount+ Youre perfect as you are. However, even if the Academy series moves forward, it likely wouldnt go into production in 2022 or even 2023, leaving plenty of time for Tilly to appear in season five of Discovery. Mary Wiseman said in an interview after her departing episode that she'd be back before the end of the season. A Stitch in Time kicks off the Garak/Cardassian books and is excellent. Yes, she was a therapist that say patients in her office but her betazoid abilities aided Picard. Basically a good officer whos been in Starfleet for some years but her career stalled due to emotional and self-esteem issues. Of all the issues I have with Star Trek Discovery, Mary Wiseman/Tilly is definitely not among them. David Ajala: Ive never thought about that. I would expect more from the Star Trek crowd, which is usually quite enlightened. No one can be expected to sugarcoat reality for you, and your attitude to people who dont is very indicative that you need someone to help you with that. Mary Wiseman: That that could be a very powerful person in the Mirror Universe. Where I live people compete on the merits and are proud of their professional or intellectual achievements not their bad habits, bad health or even born with attributes such as divergent sexual orientation that they had no influence over whatsoever. Find more stories on theStar Trek Universe. What a surprise. Mary Wiseman (born July 30, 1985) is an American actress. If you cant deal with the idea of conflicting opinions then I really dont think you should be online at the moment. Shaming is one thing. What I should point out though is that Mack earned the moniker Angel of Death among the Litverse fans. The reed-thin part sometimes involves unhealthy behaviors. As an actress and a person I dont mind her at all, shes lovely. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc.