Turned on in December. Suarez Manufacturing Industries / Pinnacle Systems, did no component life testing at all during the Edenpure US-1000 / Gen4 product development. The clue is in the word personal . Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. TV Shows. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. It is now the 12th of Jan. and no heater. Perhaps another heater would work as well, but this one works real well. Yes other heaters have safety cut off switches but there not much good if your sofa has set on fire because the fire was too close. Frankly, I think enough has been said about the EdenPure. About the same. Zone heat is just that whether you use a single zone heater or have your central system set up that way. I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. Today's top 108 Human Resources jobs in Roubaix, Hauts-de-France, France. Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. Inexpensive Electric Heaters The Biggest Claim of All Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. Bill Burkett lives in Boerne, TX; previous cities include Helotes TX and San Antonio TX. Have i used them. for 1+3, enter 4. Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. Inventors: Burkett, William W. (Galena, MO, US) The criticism must have impelled these heater hucksters of Suarez Corporation Industries (which peddles both the "Amish"Heat Surge heaters and the Eden Pure heater) to back off the fable about Jones and his "cured copper." Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. If a simple electric space heater can cut energy consumption by 50 percent, then the government may wish to promote the product with tax incentives in order to break Americas dependence on foreign oil. I called the order number 1-800-458-5614 and got someone and had to request a supervisor and it took a while but they got me one on the phone. The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. The EdenPURE portable electric heater is a scam by my count. The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. You cannot get more energy out of an electron than is in it. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. A portable electric heater can keep small rooms warmer without heating the remainder of the home to a higher temperature. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. You get what you pay for, and many manufactured homes do not put the quality into their heating systems, ductowrk, etc. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. I realized that this was the start of giving me the run around. Common sense. Is anyone anymore really honest? Think about it, if you heat with gas you turn this thing on and turn the gas down then the increase in your electric bill well more than makes up for what you save on gas. Many times, the ductwork system in these homes are the coiled ductwork types that gets holes poked in it, or is otherwise leaky ductwork. The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. I can prove that is nonsense in 3 seconds in my house. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. I'll tell you a secretyou can eliminate your heating bills! Looked first at a $14.99 ceramic heater that uses 1500 watts and is rated at just over 5000 btu's. After calling the hardware store that sold the heater was told I would have to contact the company who finally sent a shipping label but the instructions say that you must use the original box. The same amount of air goes through. It costs me about $9.00 per day to heat my house with Propane. This year, 2010, we noticed that the unit was not at all effective. This actually makes their heater less efficient. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! Let me first say, I have been praiseing the Edenpure for about 6 years. There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. I am trying to heat about a 400 SQ foot area. That is the real savings. I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. I often think these celebrities who endorse products do not really check completely into them. Crawfordville, FL (1) Daytona Beach (FL) (4) Fort Myers-Cape Coral (FL) (6) Fort Pierce-Port St. Lucie (FL) (1) I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. June 10, 2022 bardowie loch parking. I am very comfortable with leaving the Eden Pure on at night and while I am away so when I return, the house is not cold, plus I have the assurance that my pets are not going to be burned or turn over a smaller, lighter heater burning them and possibly burning the house down. I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. They definitely do state 1000 SQ.FT., not cubic feet.I really don't need you to explain to me the difference in cubic feet and square feet. It is an older model. Less expensive models one have tubes. Amazon has some of the best prices on heaters and ships right to your door. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. Which means you get 100% of what it cost you. I bought the Gen4, have it in the living room in the center of the 1250 sq feet, and I have not turned on my heater. Both the gen 4 and the personal. Unplugged edenpure. However, the radiant barrier can't be sandwiched between two objects as the contact point transfers heat away quite nicely. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. It was almost exactly a year ago when I first saw the EdenPure heater advertised and I warned readers to take caution when believing some of the claims. EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. If you really want to save energy and money on heating costs, don't shell out hundreds of bucks on a space heater. Well it depends on what version you get. They basically cut our heating bills in half and keep us nice and warm during the cold Pennsylvania winter nights. The cost was going to be $10,000. So reliability can be good or bad. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. I guess two guys with a beard is supposed to lend your overpriced heater more credibility. up. Buyer beware ! 1) If a person commenting on this site is in the HVAC business they are automatically biased against EdenPURE because it competes with their services. Unfortunately, most don't pay enough attention or don't care about the consumer. I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. While almost 100% of the electricity is transformed to heat, it is one of the most expensive ways to produce heat. What else can I do? The big SCAM not mentioned is the advertised life of the Edenpure US-1000 or Gen4 heaters. You could heat an inner room to 70 degrees with the EdenPure for maybe $60/month ($0.15/kWh * 12 hrs/day * 30 days) while dropping the thermastat on the rest of the house to 50 degrees, reducing your heating bill by 40% (assuming avg temp outside is 20 degrees) saving $200/month on natural gas, thereby saving you about $140/month overall! I don't know about most of you, but in the coldest 3 months of the year here, my bill runs over $500. Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. The film, directed and produced by Canton, Ohio native Doug Dearth and starring Logan Huffman, is the classic David-and-Goliath story centered around a small-town football team. (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). Now, if that is not a scam, a come on, a lead in, I don't know what it. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. 29/12/2020 . etc,. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. Cubic Feet/Minute is the best measure. Complain all you want the heater works well. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. When the sunlight is in the right direction, I can see the dust particles floating by the intake. As a local family owned company that has been in business for over 30 years, we continue to value the trust you have placed with us to provide your families and homes with professional, reliable and affordable Heating, Cooling & Indoor Air Quality solutions. I borrowed one of these heaters from my Mom and it heated the whole back half of my house. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. Point is, I finally bought a Dr Heater and it works way better than any other heater I have tried in my basement and I tried them all! I might buy a DuraFlame simply because it is the same and half the price. Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. So, for those looking for a way to reduce your bills, why don't you have your attic better insulated, replace your windows (if needed), and have a new heating unit or units installed, finance it all, and pay the extra on the payments instead of on the extra electricity you are using now. Menu. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. Again, it was ZONE heating and with a heat pump, like that was going to save me money. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. Is it reliable. I called the customer service number 1-888-294-0280 and never spoke to anyone after being on hold for hours and I even left my home number and they never returned my call after being assured they would call. It's not the space heater itself that saves you money, it's the fact you aren't heating the rest of the space in your home. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. You are dead wrong pilgrim. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. Most space heaters like EdenPure use electricity to produce heat. Endenpure I dont know till I get it. But using ANY space heater will lower your heating bill if you turn your thermostat down! They don't claim it will save you money. The blower came on but no heat. i have one, and believe me it has paid for itself, i have hot water heat powered by natural gas. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. Coo-coo ka-choo, Mrs. Robinson, Mr.Jones has left and gone away, hey, hey, hey." I have changed my mind and will not be purchasing the eden pure and will no longer trust Mr. Vila as someone who has MY best interest at heart. It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. sellers and buyers must dedicate ourselves to paying the cost of doing the right thing or the one who doesn't dissappears. Another interesting point that only Delbert seemed to make is--- how much maintenance is required? After reading all the comments, there is no way that I will save any money with this EdenPure Heater and will not order this. I just looked them up, and they are 42.99 plus 9.95 shipping. We bought edenpure in September. :). I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. Love my EdenPURE heater! I borrowed a friends EdenPure 1000. Oh Al, It is you who does not understand electric restisance heating AT ALL Continue to believe what you want to believe. Zero marketing at that point. The only way it would have is if I used it exactly like the Eden Pure is supposed to be used. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. Square feet is the area of floor space, cubic feet is the amount of air in a room. Regular price. Then, if you read the contents, there is no coverage for the first TWO years. How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? 2) People keep saying a BTU is a BTU and you can't get more energy out of electricity than is put in. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. Program your thermostat and lower the temperature inside your home so it is closer to the temperature outside. Edin Pure used to give you 2 models (large and small).Sam's Club usually sells Quartz heaters at a competitive price. As for bob vila. Like most people have said, 1500 watts of electric energy is just that, 1500 watts, Doesn't matter if it come out of a $20 Walmart heater or a $400 Eden, it'll do the same thing. Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. cj. According to these naysaying braniacs her hairdryer should put out more heat since they claim all heat sources are 100% efficient, etc. I'm sure it puts out heat. Now, here we have a 1500 watt that will be plugged into the same 120 outlet as the Eden Pure, yet the Eden Pure will with its 1500 watts heat up to 1000 sq ft, and this one heats 150?? I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. I bought 2 refurbished EP heaters 8 years ago and both are still working just fine. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. Had I chosen to update and insulate when I first moved here, I could have done it for that price or less. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. Question: What is a radiant barrier? Because it works and dose save money especially if you have bad heating in your house. Thank you for the validation. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? New Human Resources jobs added daily. I promise you the payback on this will be much better than an expensive space heater. How? You don't get this risk with the Eden pure . Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. Minneapolis/St. Best of luck. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. Of course, they are not as pretty, and being a woman I do want my house pretty, but again if I can save that much money by not using the air until it hits 80 in the house (and BTW the a/c does not stay on long with the fans on). Look at your furnace's btu rating. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent. F0r reference, 1000 hours is about 42 days of continuous run time. My central gas system is currently broken beyond repair, and until I can install a new system, I am heating every room with electric space heaters, and here in the cold mountains, it's running $300-$400/month (yes, I know, it's temporary madness). I don't believe people can stay comfortable in their homes with just a space heater, so I don't believe they'll reduce your heating bills in half. Yes but they are ugly units and they both worked. I purchased a gen4 2 months ago and could not find I was saving any money since Im all electric.I have notified the co I want to return the heater for a refund and they keep giving me the run around about sending me an RMA and the prepaid UPS slip to ship the unit back to them.after reading some of the other complaints I'm wandering if I will ever get a slip. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. 00 EdenPURE GEN40 Heater $247. Space heaters save money because instead of heating your whole home, you just heat a small space. June 11, 2022 Posted by: when was arthur miller born No Comments. Although electric heaters do heat a room, there are more energy efficient ways of doing that. I unpacked this one and turned it on and the fan barely would run. Its safer than most to. An electric heater can do the job for an unheated sideroom or shop where the cost of a furnace or duct work would be prohibitive. It costs me about $2.00 per day to heat my house with Eden Pure. Facts Buddy Fast, Factual, Free USA. Its wheels make relocation a snap." ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. The story is that Jones' furnace went off in his big drafty farm house. Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. Until recently, Eden Pure ads claimed their technology was based on the serendipitous finding by some farmer named "John Jones." 5.7 1 h 32 min 2015 X-Ray PG. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. Call your agent or insurance company if you have any questions. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. the first home I woned was a manufactured home, and I first used zone-heating to beat the cost of heating the outdoors through the leaky ducts (until I repaired them, of course !) The same method can be used in the walls, ceiling, and floor of a mobile home to regulate its temperature. Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. It's CFM rate is horrible vs. a fan forced electric heater. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. Heat is the movement of air molecules. FACT: Nonsense. Al Metcalf if you want to call them stupid go right ahead anyone with half a brain can debunk your hair dryer vs heat gun theory. That way, I do believe you can save money especially during the night while sleeping. Dont let anyone tell you the heat from their heaters is better or different. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems have absolutely NO component life test data to back-up their component life claims. Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. My best friend bought two, I told her not to do it. But if you're going to buy a space heater, you don't have to shell out $400 or more for the EdenPure Gen 3 Model 1000. I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. 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