Sometimes victims are posed as a signature as if to say when I do this again you will recognize my handy work and give me the credit although we have no evidence to suggest there was any posing at all. If comments start getting out of hand please feel free to report, though. Continue reading The Heartbreaking Case of little Rachael Runyan. (The person from the FB post that is) their bodies were quite close to water. Finding the right words for this post proved to be difficult. Lindy was a young wife and floral shop worker when she was murdered on December 5, 1975. He will contact you very soon and oh when he Does please bring a Catholic priest to the police station. Then that's no "grudge"., That's called pure evil. Kelsitold The Sunthat the police's update reopened "old wounds" but filled her with hope that investigators were finally zeroing in on the man who murdered her sister. On Feb. 15, 2017, police released cell phone images from German's phone showing a suspect in the case coming across the bridge towards the girls. 'There was a lot more physical evidence than that at the crime scene,' Ives said. This person was going to share the pictures regardless, they just wanted to be asked first to make themselves feel better is my guess. "He could be right there in front of us and we have no idea. I read 1 of them is still in grief counseling for it- so im pretty sure she doesnt wanna talk about it. A MAN has been arrested as part of the Delphi murders investigation - and The U.S. Sun can exclusively reveal details about the 50-year-old CVS worker. Do we know who this is and why he'd have photos? Allen, who has entered . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Alan, a 50-year-old married father of two children and a CVS technician, was taken into custody Friday and charged with two counts of manslaughter for the mysterious murders in Delphi. Heres the article as it appeared on TrueCrimeDiary.com-. If you have any tips or information about this case, please contact the Fort Wayne Police Department. "I think that's one thing that intrigues people [about the case] to continue to look at it.". Another woman, who had been in a relationship with Logan, told law enforcement that when she heard the bodies were found near Logan's home, she believed he was involved. Something that shows the body language of this suspect or more of his voice may be the missing piece of the puzzle but police dont seem to want to do this, and I hope its not at the peril of this case being solved. I was pretty excited that there was such an all out public effort nationwide to catch this killer and with audio & video evidence of who killed them, I thought Abbys and Libbys murders may have been solved by now but that has not happened. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Investigators are looking for as much information as those who communicated with the profile can provide, including how they communicated and through which social media platform. RTV6 - The Untold Story of Abby and Libby (20:10) YouTube link. Police, like Kelsi, have previously suggested that Libby and Abby's killer may live locally. Although she was clothed, an autopsy would show that the little girl had been raped and suffocated. DNA collected from this new evidence, proved to be a match with the DNA of Aprils Murderer. While she said the anthony_shots Instagram account was unfamiliar to her, and that her sister never mentioned anything about interacting with strangers online before her death, Kelsi said she believes police are getting "closer each day" to achieving justice for Libby. Or is this supposed to be the ravine alluded to during this episode of the podcast? Is there a break in the Delphi murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams? The affidavit states that Indiana State Police and the FBI carried out a search warrant on 25 February 2017 - less than two weeks after Abby and Libby were murdered at Mr Klines home in Peru after tracking down the user of the anthony_shots profile to the property. I am thinking of reasons why the FBI was immediately involved and now the focus is not on a possible interstate killer. Also, there is debate, but if you look at the scanner recording of the day when the bodies were found, the local PD says "keep them away" in response to a statement re: bystanders + FBI; resulting in debate about whether local pd was trying to keep FBI away and why. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. . Those charges stem from a search of his home in Peru,Indianaon February 25th, 2017 - just 11 days after the bodies of Libby and Abby were found in Delphi. Their bodies were discovered the following day in the woods about a half-mile from the trail. There are the eye witness descriptions of the killer when he abducted April, and when he was seen writing on the barn. One of the letters read as follows: Hi Honey I been watching you I am the same person that kidnapped and raped and killed April Tinsley. I also thought about whether the finders might have covered a body somewhat, but assume that they would have reported that anyway. On Monday, February 13th, 2017, at around 1 pm, Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off near the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana. Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the show's founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesday's "Crime Stories" to discuss the case. Delphi Murders if bodies were staged or posed what does that say about the killer Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. The request is to search the home of Ronald Logan, which is 1,400 feet from where the bodies of Williams and German were found. A serial killer has a narcissistic personality and will not be able to cope with so many opinions that are different from his, such as on a forum. The FBI agent also claimed that text messages sent to and from Logan's phone the evening of Feb. 13, 2017, showed he was likely outside his home and "in the proximity of where LG and AW's bodies were located." Guest blogger Mike Morford operates the website zodiackillersite.com. UPDATE 9/28/17 There may be a break in this case. 6 Im happy for her family, and will do a full update as more details emerge, My podcast, Criminology, released an episode about Aprils case, and we interviewed Aprils Mom, Janet for the episode. 'I tend to think it's a local,' Ives said, but adding, 'maybe it was a random murder, maybe it was a serial killer.'. But ive also read (this is a rumorif not OK i will delete) that they girls were found apart. The man was able to gain Rachaels trust and without warning, grabbed the innocent three-year-old and threw her into his car before speeding away. In at least one photo, there is clearly a distinct blue-green paisley-patterned bedspread. The comments below have not been moderated, By Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com I tend to agree. Police investigating the mysterious 2017 murders of two teenage girls in Indiana are looking for a person who created fake social media accounts and posed as a . In a rare update issued last week, Indiana State Police said they were seeking information about a bogus social media profile, called anthony_shots, that may be linked to the case. Writing about children that are terrorized and murdered takes something out of you and makes realize just how shitty this world can be; or at least some of the people in it. Its a very rare occurrence, only 1.3% of the victims is left in an unusual, corrected position. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I think perhaps I saw the same things this guy did. Thank you! For more information, please see our Instead of telling me to "look up" this or that, and hinting , somewhat, at theories,why not just state the theory . The agent also confirmed that video on German's phone was actually 43 seconds long. Her roommate left to go visit Family. Not far from the body, police discovered a sex toy. Kelsi's belief the killer lives - or may have once lived - locally stems from the idea that the trail near to where the two girls' bodies were found is difficult to simply stumble across, she said. Since the double murder of Libby and Abby nearly eight months ago on an isolated trail in Delphi, Indiana, there have been promising leads in the search for their killer. Sometimes there are deliberate injuries to the mouth, including bullet wounds, as a sign that someone "talked.". The girls bodies were discovered on his . They are black and white and do mention some aspects of how they died. In a statement released on Monday, the department said such questions are "certainly relevant" but declined to comment further. Press J to jump to the feed. The quick-thinking teens were able to capture video and audio of the killer, portions of which have been released by police, but so far investigators have been unable to zero in on a suspect. A statement was made that said the scene was horrific. ln the Podcast Down the Hill, episode 9 at around the 11:30 mark, this is said: since abby and libbys bodies were discovered in a hard to miss ravine, we think the killer attempted to hide the bodies. They have an excellent podcast and I am sure that they will give this case the attention it deserves, I am listening to it today. "He could be working with people that I know or walking past me when I'm looking at Christmas lights. The detectives turned their attention to the likely point of entry, the window. And if not, where were they were found? Retired FBI profiler Mary Ellen O'Toole, who has worked on cases such as the Green River Killer, explained on the podcast that a 'signature' at a crime is 'behavior that is over and beyond what it necessary to complete the crime, and it generally is behavior that is satisfying to the offender, whether it is sexually satisfying or psychologically satisfying'. The murder of Lindy Sue Biechler was a shock to the quiet and peaceful neighborhood near Amish country, and left a family devastated. These eyewitness accounts have lead to rough sketches being produced of the killer. The FBI agent also noted that 77-year-old Logan appeared to be in good physical condition and his voice was "not inconsistent" with that of the voice captured on German's phone. Mr Kline allegedly told investigators he would use social media accounts to talk to underage girls and had exchanged messages with and received about 100 sexual photos and about 20 sexually explicit videos from around 15 underage girls. ", She continued: "It gives you a renewed sense of hope and just helps us to continue to realize that detectives are still doing absolutely everything they can to get justice for Abby and Libby - and give us, the families, the answers we deserve.". Ill tell you what Chief Pig, you print this Letter in the paper along with a Picture in Friday nights Lancaster Paper and saturday mornings paper, and I might confesss When I get off my trip. I love true crime and listen to a bunch of podcasts and books. The Polaroids themselves may be a big clue to his identity. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I wonder if that person is confusing the crime scene photos with the Iowa girls. Kelsi German, 21, told The Sun that she was in awe of the courage shown by her 14-year-old sister Libby in the final moments of her life when she and her best friend Abby Williams, 13, were murdered in Indiana in February 2017. Investigators found DNA that belonged to Aprils killer. By This is one clue that will solidify a link between killer and Victim. You are my next victim. If u could see one, u could see the other. Continue reading Murder in Amish Country; the case of Lindy Sue Biechler, A Monster in Fort Wayne, The Murder of April Marie Tinsley. He died in 2020 and the case remains unsolved to this day. The department asked anyone who interacted with the account on Snapchat or Instagram to come forward for information. Not sure if thats what this is about, but if so, Im not sold. Dana, who worked part time as a waitress, had visited her fianc in another town that day and was too tired to work so she wound up calling out from the restaurant where she was due in at 5:30 pm. He was arrested on charges of child sexual abuse images and child exploitation tied to the account and admitted to grooming underage girls online. When the letter appears, then he will turn himself in, he described the relationship he and Lindy had before he killed her. "I could have met him, but we don't know and we don't know that it didn't happen either, which is terrifying. "It was hard to hear but it did also make us hopeful because they finally revealed something to the public for the first time in what had seemed like forever. If it's real, it's very sad, but it's likely people grasping at straws. The shocking new details about the murders that have rocked the community of Delphi, Indiana, for more than five years came to light in a search warrant obtained by podcast The Murder Sheet and shared with The Independent. One of those accounts was anthony_shots, which he set up in 2016 around six months before his house was raided. John D. Miller, 59, of Grabill, Indiana was arrested for the murder of April Marie Tinsley at his home Sunday morning by members of the Fort Wayne Police Department and the Indiana State Police, according to court documents. Allen was taken into custody and booked into the Carroll County Jail in connection with the horrific crime. If you believe the leaked texts were real (and I do), Abby's arms were not spread out and over her head. This monster still may be walking among the residents of Fort Wayne but its not too late to catch him, and bring closure to this case, and to Aprils Family. "I've always thought that he has to know the area somehow," she said. DELPHI, Ind. Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. Police investigators arrived at the scene and immediately found clues. Continue reading A Murder at Penn State; The case of Dana Bailey, This article is a reprint of a Guest-Blog article that I wrote for the late true crime writer, Michelle McNamaras site TrueCrimeDiary.com, (If you have not explored Michelles wonderful true crime articles, be sure to check out her site TrueCrimeDiary.com while its still up), Over the years, I have corresponded quite a bit with Lindys family, so her case is one that is very important to me. "I see it all over, every day. The agent noted that Logan had been physically able to get up and down the hill from his home to the crime scene when he met with officers on Feb. 17. A witness reported seeing a man in a light blue pickup truck pull April inside it. Investigators also released additional audio of the suspected killer from German's phone. The victims' bodies were found about a quarter-mile from the Monon High Bridge . The Murder of Kirsten Krasovec; a Cautionary tale about Domestic Violence, The Murder In My Family podcast covering the Delphi Murders of Liberty German & Abigail Williams, Vulnerable in Ventura; The Case Of Cindy Lee Mellin, My Guest appearances on True Crime Podcasts. He has reportedly filed a plea of not guilty and is being held without bond. Investigators would discover that the knife in Lindys neck was a knife that belonged to her from her own kitchen, but that a second knife was used in the attack as well, one that was not found at the crime scene and presumably was brought to and from the scene by her killer. This was prior to the bodies being discovered. Ives said: 'Even though at the crime scene there was a lot of physical evidence of one sort of another which would lead logically to one person or another, it never led to one particular person.'. They had no real strong suspects at the time, and the case would quickly go cold. IMO I believe "keep them away" was re: bystanders, but for what it's worth, it's debated. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges. Too many opinions and he cannot control them. Now, that does NOT necessarily indicate staging. On April 22, 2019, Indiana State Police released an updated sketch. Police said they've identified the male model that was used in the photos on the account and say that man is not a person of interest in the Delphi case. I DO think that if there is evidence of staging that insinuates a methodology , therefore suggests it could be a serial killer. At the same time, these cases need to be solved and a spotlight shined on the monsters responsible for these horrifying crimes. The 14-year-old also captured a grainy video on her phone of a man dressed in blue jeans, a jacket and a hoodie walking along the abandoned railroad bridge. Investigators say the person used the profile to communicate with underage girls to solicit nude images, and want to know if anyone got requests to get their address or try to meet with them. If it is not a serial killer, it can be too confrontational.Still, you never know and for sure a creepy idea. Libby and Abby went missing on 13 February 2017 after they set off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, Indiana. The FBI can also be used to determine whether there was a danger to the community and the impact of it on the community. According to Leaker, this is correct. Mr Logans home was just 1,400 feet from the location where Libby and Abbys bodies were discovered on Valentines Day 2017. Face is in quotes because it's likely my mind just making a rational picture out of sticks and tree trunks. The believe that her murderer stood on something enabling him to reach up to Danas elevated window and simply opened it and climbed in surprising Dana as she slept. There were no visible signs of a struggle or fight. She had been stabbed several times, and there was a knife still embedded in her neck. Of course we don't know how the bodies were found and if they were posed or staged, we only know that the crime scene was unbelievable disturbing and horrible. But not far. Carter issued a direct appeal to the killer during press conference when the footage and audio was released, saying: 'We believe you are hiding in plain sight. Search teams scour the area for hours but are forced to stop due to limited light. Any murder is awful, but murder of a child is disgusting and unforgivable, and the levels of depravity in this case in particular, are especially nauseating. Forgive me if someone else posted this.but the FBI was called in immediately. Your email address will not be published. That makes no sense anyways, kill 2 little girls because of a "grudge",theoretically speaking. The FBI got permission to search the entire property, including Logans home, garage, his pick-up truck, computers and cell phones. Police searching for person behind catfish account discovered during investigation into 2017 Delphi murders . My name is Mike Morford, AKA TrueCrimeGuy. Lets hope so. Cookie Notice Start your Independent Premium subscription today. The pre-trial hearing in this case is to be held in January. Police released this photo of a man seen on the Delphi trail near where two teenagers were murdered. Dana had been repeatedly stabbed and rope bindings remained on her. The 2017 murder of Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. 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