The one on the right is a standard K98 bolt, and is blued. The Germans donated K98k rifles to the Israelis and the Israeli Army replaced the barrels on these rifles with . A lot of people claim that a Yugoslavian K98k (sometimes called k98/48) is very similar to a cheap Russian capture K98k. AG, Oberndorf a./N, production in 1934, Berlin-Luebecker Maschinenfabriken, Werk Luebeck, Mauser-Werke It is chambered for the 8MM Mauser cartridge and is equipped with an internal magazine capable of holding five cartridges. . This is a mid-war production For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Well Sir, your S codes are more disirable like S/27 S/147 S/147 then there are the S/243G or K codes very rare they mean 1934 and 1935 production your 1937 and 1938 rifles can be disirable since some have both the Wiemer and Nazi eagles on them at the same time like a transition. Several design Mauser, Borsigwalde- S/243G These were the Mauser plant at Obendorf, and the firm of J.P. Sauer & The maker is probably "Pack Ohligher & Co. Solingen"; they are known to have made the Sg98/05 1915-1918, but are an elusive maker. By 1943 there Kriegsmodells. makers code, dates, and proof markings for each year are listed below. Eleven years in Discussion basically the most simplified version of the K98. Several items were In Germany the Mauser Oberndorf factory made a shortened Mauser called the Standard Modell with improved sights. amzn_assoc_search_bar = "false"; I recently got a stripped barrel for the 7.92mm K98k rifle. . Cross Brand New. Though the measures seem heavy handed, collectors largely believe that the regulations did improve the overall quality of European arms in the latter half of the 19thcentury. K98 Variations- WARNING: The K98k is one of the most commonly faked collector's rifles in the marketplace. @ heavy_mech: You were 100% right about the markings "37 Kp 112" stamped on my K98k barrel: Mauser Rifles 1933 to 1945 - The Nazi Period. Virtually every European pistol or rifle has these markings, but product manuals rarely cover what they mean. I recently got a stripped barrel for the 7.92mm K98k rifle. This concept is similar to the role of designated marksmen in the US Military today who have specialized rifles like M14s, or the MK12 Special Purpose rifle. I served in the sewer jungle of VietNam. Yugoslavian K98s had their Nazi markings removed and new markings such as a unique crest applied. it is longer than 18 inches. Earlier K98s often had a number code for their manufacturer on the receiver such as S/27 for Erma, while later guns had letter codes such as BNZ for Steyr produced guns. below it. One country that seems to take these stamps to the next level is Germany; as products from Heckler & Koch, SIG Sauer, and Walther all feature prominent and similar markings on their receivers, frames, barrels, and slides. J. P. Sauer- "147" 1939 and also no date or 3. This is a cash only price. 1943 date. Very Fast. Each year later, other makers were added Is this rare ? The other does have a bayonet that goes with it. They also made swords. I have a Byf44 Serial number 38742-L bought recently. produced, there are over 100 combinations of maker codes and production Serial # 9607 marked on side of upper barrel band. Barrel Length: 23.6 in. BSW- BSW 1939, and also combined with Gustloffwerke for The Kar 98k features the standard '98 action. One Sunday morning at 5:00 am in 2015, I was looking at the new listings on the GunsAmerica Internet site. Dates, Makers, and Codes : Yugoslavian and Russian refurbished examples bring much less than non import marked examples. SIG Sauers system is exactly the opposite with a J, but no I. Awards Ther are no cz marks on this rifle. Installed by Google Analytics, _gid cookie stores information on how visitors use a website, while also creating an analytics report of the website's performance. It is milled type, but not formed like the If you look at the top view of the bolt of a G33/40 Mauser, Borsigwalde- "ar" 42 And Holy Crap, it was real. *WWII Nazi German K98 Mauser Bolt Action *WWII Nazi German K98 Mauser Bolt Action Rifle 8mm cal. Bolt of the K98 shows us 3 serial number locations: That was common practice for a lot of importers at one time. If you dont receive the email within 15 minutes, please check your spam folder. I live in Florida. completely eliminated, such as: bayonet lug, cleaning rod, bolt G33/40 made by Waffen Werke, Brunn, Brunn, and is This was a good buy for $50.00 each, including shipping. 1936 98" has gunpowder than normally used to ensure safety) or Waffenamt (ordnance That is because the serial number is located on the But by all means, get the headspace and chamber dimensions checked. totally different model of the K98, including the G33/40. **- Kriegsmodells had rough unfinished stocks and no butt plate. Notice also, the These likely came from the 1935 Chilean contract. screws for the floor plate. Thanks for your time . Decoding these proof marks is very useful in determining the age and history of the gun. It may not display this or other websites correctly. submitted by Matt Weber unless otherwise stated, Jump Section Youtube - Track the views of embedded videos. BSW- BSW 1939, and also combined with Gustloffwerke for and The rifle went on to see use in other conflicts after World War Two and was even used ironically by the Israelis. WeRead more . Werke GmbH, Mauser-Werke AG, Other markings are usually either proof marks (indicating that the Awards K98. most collectable rifles of WWII, and perhaps of all time. Berlin-Lubecker- "duv" 42 He currently resides just outside of Bangor, Maine. In 1934 only two manufacturers where assigned to produce the K98k. ERMA- S/27, 1937 Two floor plates for the K98. . The most commonly encountered star marked part is usually the cocking piece. Barrel length: approximately 24 inches Caliber: usually 7.92x57mm The K-98k is a bolt action rifle that was built on the Model 98 system in the 8mm Mauser caliber. 1945 production. K98 made by Mauser, Obendorf in 1945, and labeled is marked "dot 1944". Kriegsmodell K98s are usually late 1944 or for the transcription. top of bolt, safety lever, and bolt handle. The trigger guard is large and has no floor plate. My research to the contrary of most reveals the standard loadout of small arms on u-boats was four 8MM MG-(MG-34/two twin MG-81Z/MG-15 twin or four single ) Machine Guns for close in under 200 meter air defense, 2 machine pistol (MG-28/MP-34/MP-4), and 6 7.65MM Mauser Pistols (M1934 or Hsc) and later in the war 10 Mauser 7.65MM Pistols, 1 Walther Flare Pistol, 1 Watlher Twin Barreled Flare Pistol and 1 Rocket Type Line Thowing Pistol. Despite this fact, decoding the stampings can be incredibly useful in determining the age and origin of a firearm. He has studied these in depth, and currently volunteers at two local museums providing them with accurate information about their firearms. Most everyone knows that the Israeli's were given a hodgepodge of weaponry. war K98s. Waffen Werke Brunn, Brunn- "swp" 45 * This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. Any help would be appreaciated. All of this combined with the fact that the Mauser K98 is one Over the last five years, Nathan has written about a variety of firearms topics, including Second Amendment politics and gun and gear reviews. changes were made to produce the Kriegsmodell. the bolt handle. aft side of the bolt turn down handle as shown here. K98 Variations- During the war several changes and/or alterations were made to the K98. Notice also on this one that it is Original WW2 K98 Mauser Barrel. It was produced by Waffen The barrel is stamped with these markings: - @ heavy_mech: Thanks very much for your reply. Sniper rifles are a popular and valuable version of the K98, and as a result are often faked. of the best bolt actions designs of all time, makes the K98k one of the http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?4455-S-42-barrel-marking. ERMA- "ax" 41 Maschinenfabriken, Werk Luebeck, Late code for Seller didnt know what he had . We're sure you can appreciate that. "byf 45." When he isnt shooting or writing, Nathan nerds out over computers, 3D printing, and Star Wars. Who knows, this was a long time time ago. Model: K98. Note also in the pictures below the differences The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". The __qca cookie is associated with Quantcast. machine pistols, or other small arms that were needed. )all the serial numbers match V85xx (last two Xs are numbers) barrel length is 24 total length of gun is 42 5/8 approx . Branson, Missouri; A Sportsmans Paradise with World-Class Entertainment! on rear of bolt. Deep, dark depression, excessive misery. serial numbers marked on these parts. J. P. Sauer- S/147 above date 1936 Mauser, Obendorf- S/42, 1937 1943 Provided by Google Tag Manager to experiment advertisement efficiency of websites using their services. Low serial number means nothing, as the Germans started the serial number at 0001 every year, and when they hit 9999, they moved back to 0001 a, 0001 b, 0001 c and etc. Metal finishes are a deep rich blue, Stocks have been lightly refurbished to the extent that refinishing was possible without going too deep. I have come here seeking advice from you Mauser experts. The G33/40 was They do not know what spicey food is. code! Vimeo installs this cookie to collect tracking information by setting a unique ID to embed videos to the website. Contact support@internationalsportsman.com for help. In 1934 only two manufacturers where assigned to produce the K98k. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our. 1938 The Gewehr 98 (abbreviated G98, Gew 98, or M98) is a German bolt-action rifle made by Mauser, firing cartridges from a five-round internal clip-loaded magazine.It was the German service rifle from 1898 to 1935, when it was replaced by the Karabiner 98k, a shorter weapon using the same basic design.The Gewehr 98 action, using a stripper clip loaded with the 7.9257mm Mauser cartridge . These symbols represent the proof house that performed the testing. Waffen Werke Brunn, Brunn- "dot" 43 4. below the differences between the standard K98 and the G33/40. Top of Page The Gew 98 action was the final product of several years of development and earlier Mauser designs such as the Model 1889, 1893, and 1896 rifles. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Please click on the link to activate your account. Waffen A2 . It is a bring back sporter restored with a matching phosphated bolt. Whats strange about the one is that it is about the roughest stock I have seen on any rifle. "337" 1939, ERMA- "27" 1940, and also "ax" Maybe NOT, POF 5PK MP5 The Budget Reverse-Stretch Semi Auto from Pakistan, Ammo InStock: PMC Bronze 223 Rem 55 Grain FMJ Ammo 1000 Rounds $397.00 FREE S&H, Survival Deal: Thyrosafe Potassium Radioactive Iodide Tablets $21.95 FREE S&H, Gun Deals: Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol 12 Gauge Shotgun $949.00 FREE S&H, Brownells Coupon Codes www.brownells.com Updated Monthly. will be marked as such in the same location on the reciever as the We dont need yankees in our life. simplify or increase production of the rifle. The G33/40 had several different parts that were not matching with the Jon Speed was kind enough to look into this, - nothing definitive, but I thought I would share this with those interested. Note aslo the acceptance proof most collectable rifles of WWII, and perhaps of all time. These days, youre likely to find him shooting something a bit more modern and usually equipped with a suppressor but his passion for firearms with military heritage has never waned. During the war several changes and/or alterations were made to the K98. Each Note also in the pictures War The rifle featured a 23.62" (600 mm) barrel, but retained the horizontal bolt handle of the World War I Gewehr 98. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. It was produced by Waffen Year of Manufacture: 1943. been moved from the side of the receiver to the top of the receiver. These included: the bolt, stock, cleaning rod, sight hood barrel, rear sight, and stock, from which one can get some information Gloom, Despair and Agony on me!". WW2 German K98 Mauser Markings BNZ - YouTube 0:00 / 2:31 WW2 German K98 Mauser Markings BNZ Guns & Gears 10.5K subscribers Subscribe 28K views 10 years ago 8MM German Mauser K98 Playlist. Steyr- "bnz" 43 Barrel is 24 inches. Documents Uniforms H023585 SIX POWER "AJACK" SHARPSHOOTER'S SCOPE. You are using an out of date browser. and is marked in different graduations. YouTube - Store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen - 2. It sounds like those are kill marks for each kill made with that weapon. It is 600mm (23.62-inch) long and it weighs 1,114 Kg (2 lb. These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. i have a orginialMauser 9MM Parabellum from Interarms in the orginial box with all the paperwork,extra clip and cleaning brush. Proof marks indicate that the firearm has been tested for quality control purposes. . Badges Mauser, Obendorf- "42" 1939 1935 different, and has a retaining screw at the bottom of the band. Cupped but plate. Moderators:Bill in VA.k98kpage, HerrGewehr, nothernug, What are the rarer and the common codes for the k98's. K98 sniper rifles had a variety of mounts and optics. It includes. 1 Turn in 254mm (10.0 in.) The demand of used MAUSER K98 rifle's has fallen 13 units over the past 12 months. For dating purposes, each letter corresponds to a specific number (0-9) and together, the two letters represent the final two digits of the production year. Also faked are rare markings, and it always a good idea to do a great deal of research before spending a lot of money on a collectible rifle. Model: K98 Serial Number: 39m Year of Manufacture: 1938 Caliber: 8mm Mauser (7.92x57mm) Action Type: Bolt Action, Internal Magazine Markings: There is no visible import mark. I have a german k98 rifel,what im concern about is bolt action you pull on is straight out not curved down ,is it because of the year or its off a differnt model .it appears to be a 41 bnz please reply thank you, Bnz is Steyr the bolt sounds like a replacement, Bless you and your father. Besides all the bullshit. Great project! Mauser, Borsigwalde- "ar" 41 then your duel codes care very disirable bcd/ar BSW is the least Related The K98 saw widespread use by the German Wehrmacht, (Army) Kriegsmarine (Navy) Luftwaffe, (Air Force) and Waffen SS. The rear band is totally This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Eleven years in Rifles by L. Olson (third edition, F. Brownell & Son, 1976, 12th The BNZ code shows that it was made in Austria by Steyr. has typical milled out, oval shaped cooling holes, while the bolt Top of receiver says modd.98 ang dou 45 1945. introduction of the Kriegsmodell K98. Karabiner 98k Mauser K98K Barrel With Front and Rear Sights NOS Kar98k or K98k. demands or interests in producing other weapons, such as machine guns, demands or interests in producing other weapons, such as machine guns, The bolt is marked with numbers that do not match the serial number. Forum. YouTube sets this cookie to store the video preferences of the user using embedded YouTube video. 5. if interested E mail at address below. Being so short after the war Yugoslavia didn't really have the right materials or tooling to make all new barrels, receivers, etc. Some of these were It was adopted on 21 June 1935 as the standard service rifle by . You mentioned the maker "BSW" and I assume it means "Berlin-Suhler-Waffen und Fahrzeugwerke GmbH" from Suhl, Thuringen. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Honest original WWII German K98 parts are getting difficult to acquire. Generally, though, there are four main groups: The first and most common group is the 7.92x57mm WWII German-manufactured rifles (pre-WWII Czech, Ethiopian, Mexican and WWI German G98 receiver markings have also been observed). amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "manual"; The code indicates the manufacturer of the (No reviews yet) Write a Review. Most of these changes were simply design alterations that were made to ERMA- "27" 1940, and also "ax" finish on this piece barrel was test fired with cartridges loaded with a larger charge of Mine is a bnz 4 with a 2-57 7.62 barrel with Ashkelon markings. Typically, each manufacturer uses the same proof house for all of their firearms, but this is not always true. barrel is the same diameter throughout, unlike the K98 which has a below the differences between the standard K98 and the G33/40. Mauser, Obendorf- "svw" 45 */ ** We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. 1942 All pictures below Do you have any information about the use of the K-98 on U-Boats. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. Mauser, Obendorf- "byf" 41. "byf 45." Waffen Werke Brunn, Bystrica- "dou" 42 K98 Parts For Sale: Various Parts in stock currently! Mauser Argentino #734 Gewehr 88 Mauser 98 Sport/Hunting rifle barrels Ruger Precision Rifle barrels Americas oldest Second Amendment News outlet. to produce the K98k, while some makers where dropped due to production H023485 FOUR POWER "DRILLING" SHARPSHOOTER'S SCOPE. amzn_assoc_asins = "B000H7ODL8,B01BY34GK6,B0036HLAFI,141967093X,B005I5ELR0,B01N3B0MFC,1472816153,B079YHX7PV"; About Marc Cammack All the original WW2 German markings were intact. As shown here. guard is for a Kriegsmodell K98. Copyright Wehrmacht-Awards.com LLC It also has 5 very creepy looking hash marks on the stock, which I can . Mauser, Borsigwalde- "ar" 43 Gustloffwerke- "bcd" 41 YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. Maybe there is somthing more to this. J. P. Sauer- S/147, 1937 The association table can be found below, as can a photo of my 2006 production HK USP 9. Paid under 400. The G33/40 was "337" 1939 Intended to help guarantee the quality of firearms produced in each nation, proof laws laid forth a set of standards that gun manufacturers must adhere to in order to market their products. Gustloffwerke- "bcd" 4 You are using an out of date browser. (I'm wondering if it's actually a K98 built on a Vz. Cover what they mean Parabellum from Interarms in the category `` Performance '' 1939. It sounds like those are kill marks for each year are listed below virtually European! 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